Interview on Eschatology

Below is an interview I did on eschatology with Pastor George Lawson of Baltimore Bible Church on May 31, 2020. Topics discussed include Dispensationalism, Millennium, the Kingdom, the Rapture, and other issues. 

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3 Models of Heaven in the Early Church

by Michael J. Vlach

Lately, I have been reading a book called A History of Heaven by Colleen McDannell and Bernhard Lang. I am fascinated with their 22-page chapter, "Irenaeus and Augustine on our Heavenly Bodies." 

The authors compare the eschatology views of Irenaeus, the early Augustine, and the later Augustine.  Irenaeus represents the early church's premillennialism. Augustine represents the later amillennial view. You can see the stark contrast between these two men. Also helpful is the distinction between earlier and later Augustine. The early Augustine held very much to a Spiritual Vision Model approach, while the later Augustine was slightly less so. I have charted out some of the differences in the perspectives. Hope you find this helpful. See below:

3 Models of Heaven in Early Church

Irenaeus	Early Augustine	Later Augustine
Main theme: Glorified Material World	Main theme: The Ascetic Promise—A Heaven for Souls	Main theme: The Ecclesiastical Promise: Physical Beauty Eternalized
Reliance on kingdom view coming from John the Apostle and Polycarp	Heavy reliance on Neoplatonism worldview	Views largely the same as the early Augustine with some modifications as mentioned below
Historical Situation: Persecution and martyrdom were main issues facing Christians of Irenaeus’s day; showed your allegiance to Christ via suffering and martyrdom	Historical Situation: Christianity is an accepted part of society; show spirituality by fleeing society and its comforts and delights	Historical Situation: Mostly same as early Augustine but Augustine became more comfortable interacting with society
Hermeneutic: Prophecies about earthly kingdom and physical blessings should be taken literally and not allegorized	Hermeneutic: a mix of literal and allegorical interpretation; don’t take Revelation literally	Hermeneutic: Mostly same as early Augustine
Heaven will be on a renewed, restored earth	Heaven has nothing to do with earth; only a spiritual realm	A renewed, restored earth will occur after Jesus’ return
Earth and material things viewed positively and will be restored in the future	Earth and material things viewed negatively and will not exist in the future heaven	Softening of dualism between physical and spiritual matters
Physical bodies viewed positively now and will exist in the future	Physical bodies viewed negatively and will not exist in the future (came close to denying bodily resurrection)	Physical bodies not viewed as negatively with later Augustine, and will exist and be beautiful in Heaven; yet must obey the will of the spirit
Food, culture, and society are often good and can be enjoyed now and in Jesus’ messianic kingdom	Food, culture, and society hinder the pursuit of God; ascetic ideal should be sought; those matters do not exist in Heaven; no social interactions	Seeing God is primary but some eating and drinking will occur, but not out of necessity; societal interactions will occur
Civilized urban life in the present can be good, is not all bad	Urban life in the present is corrupt and bad; escape it	A somewhat softening from the early Augustine; some appreciation of civilized life
Jesus’ kingdom is compensation for lost life and production in this world	Heaven is a glad escape from the present world	Mostly early Augustine
Those loyal to Jesus will regain life on earth in the future world	Those loyal to Jesus will be rewarded with a heavenly escape from the world	Mostly early Augustine
The physical body will be a major part of Jesus’ kingdom; Believers will do much with their bodies	The human body is not part of Heaven	More place for physical,  resurrected body; physical eyes will be part of seeing God
3 main eras: 1. Present era; 2. Kingdom of Messiah (millennium); 3. Kingdom of the Father (Eternal State)	2 main eras: 1. The present era is Jesus’ kingdom. 2. Then eternal state	Same as early Augustine
Not much discussion of what the Kingdom of the Father will be like after Jesus’ messianic, millennial kingdom	This is the era of Jesus’ kingdom; spiritual Heaven is the eternal state	Same as early Augustine but Augustine open to a renewed earth
Marriage, family, childbearing occur in Jesus’ kingdom (future millennium)	No marriage, family, childbearing in eternal Heaven	Same as early Augustine but some recognition of previous relationships could occur
Distinctions in genders exist in the future	No distinctions in gender	Distinctions in gender will exist in the future; gender body parts will exist, but are beautiful and lust will not occur

A Post about Future Blog Posts

Hello stranger! This blog post is mostly about what I hope to be doing with future blog posts. If you follow me on this site at all you know that my posts are very few and far between. This is mostly because I try to provide high-quality information. 

But the effort and time needed to do that is a lot. Plus I have been involved with several writing projects. Once I'm focused on a book or chapter I feel like I need to stay with it until it's done. Sometimes when I get ready to make a blog post, I think to myself, "But you could be spending this time getting your book completed." That is why I rarely do posts on this site. My energies have been directed elsewhere.

But the two book projects I have been working on are nearly finished (I’'ll give more info on these later). So I’m planning on doing more posts. These probably will be shorter and more informal, and not always as deeply researched and footnoted as some others have been. 

In short, I hope to put out more information on what I’m thinking about and writing about. Some of these might be in the genre of a tweet on Twitter, but a little longer.

Anyway, this post is the first step to getting back to writing on this site more. 

Thanks for reading!

Mike